with that in mind, what does he need do for us -- what does haiti do for us? >> there has been a long time when we do not want a lot of haitians in southern florida. in early days haiti controlled an important slice of water, which gave naval access to the caribbean, so that mattered a lot in the old days and for military matters with latin america, but what can they do for us in the future? they cannot be unstable. also, there is a lot of business investment in haiti, and now haiti is being opened to mining interests, both canadian and u.s. mining interest. there is a huge amount of gold and silver and copper to be found underneath the surface, but people have not come in before because haitians will not allow them to come in on on fair terms, but those will be changed, and now mining companies can explore wherever they want. tavis: you talk about these organizations. have the ngos been good or bad for haiti? >> release is necessary. good when you're buildings have fallen down, relief is necessary. you have got to pull bodies out of the rubble. you have to do